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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't a lie.

[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
[ okay not laughing anymore and he's just looking at him puzzled ]

... aren't you always insulting humans?
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I hate them too. Well. It's not all their fault, that they're hopelessly terrible.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Really... you're making things way too complicated.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
[?]

Is you're idea of loving something to be blind to it's flaws?
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Of course not. But we aren't talking about "someone", we're talking about humanity. If you claim to love and hate it and to want to wipe it out, I think it does count as a bit of a complicated relationship.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
I guess it's normal for me.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
It's not normal at all.

And you still avoided listing any good quality.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:22 am (UTC)(link)
Loving everyone is pretty good. Most people can't manage that and they hate humans far less than I do.

[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want to accept that as your quality.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. Oh, I'm a very understanding fellow too, aren't I? And I don't hold grudges long.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Much better. I'll accept these two.

You could take those as a start to a path of self improvement.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not interested.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
I think it'd be a creepy image if you took it seriously.

... but I'm surprised, regardless.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
Because villains don't have any redeeming qualities? All humans are at least a bit of a villain, though.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
[ sighing, and shaking his head ]

Because if you say something like "I love all humans equally", it hits a little too close than I would like.

I don't believe in redeeming qualities, anyway. An awful action is an awful action regardless of what motivates it. The only reason I asked you that is because I wanted to see if you could even see yourself in a positive light at all.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
It was certainly an interesting experience. I don't really bother with that sort of thing... But it sounds like we have a lot in common.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
My love is much more limited.

But shut up anyway.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not such an unusual fellow, you know. My life may have gone... ah... a little extreme after a point. But at the heart of it I'm the most ordinary sort of person.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
Most people don't take pleasure in torture and murder, Ticky.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 03:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hoh. Maybe not when they have to rip out the heart themselves. But when a king taxes the people into starvation, does he not enjoy his power? And are those who suffer not being tortured? When someone edges out the competition, even if it means crushing their spirits, don't they feel triumphant? When a soldier slays the enemy, isn't he proud?

No, I know it isn't quite the same, but it's the same sort of thing. I'm a worse person than most but my sins are still that of a human.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
Humans aren't as bad as you think they are. A king who taxes people into starvation is no king at all. That sort of person is also a monster. A soldier slaying an enemy feels pride for protecting his country, not for killing someone else. Triumph doesn't necessarily mean enjoying the suffering of others, either.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
It's easy enough for you to say he's no king at all, but that doesn't really mean anything, does it? You mean he's a bad king. A hated king, even. Which isn't even always true but the point is, he still has the power, the pleasure, his people still suffer. And I'm not convinced that having pleasure despite their suffering is much better.
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[personal profile] thankyouverymooch 2013-04-21 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
It means that you're describing exceptions like you. A true king lives to serve and protect his people. Rulers like those exists.

Just because some humans are just as bad as you are doesn't mean it's normal.
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[personal profile] dichotomize 2013-04-21 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
It's true, most people never have the chance to be that cruel. Humans are limited by how weak they are.

I'm not weak.

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